Fuel range/capacity on x1 2020 hybrid 1.5

Hi, just getting used to my 70 plate x1 25e hybrid with the 1.5 petrol, and fills up at 36 litres and only just over 200 miles range, seems extremely low. Only another 35 with battery. What are bmw thinking

 

Really need a bit more information on your use. (Plugged in every day, or not, type of driving, etc.).

Real world mpg for your model from NGC (Next Green Car) partnered with Emissions Analytics, is 33mpg.

Peter

 

35 miles on the battery seems pretty good, these Phevs are only designed to travel those sort of distances on battery alone.
During this review they only managed 25 on the battery - https://www.drivingelectric.com/bmw/x1

200 miles on 36 litres equates to approx 25mpg which is disappointing however like Peter says it all depends on the actual usage, for instance lots of urban commuting or very short journeys may result in figures this low.

 

Welcome aboard. How long have you had the car and what sort of mileage per annum are you expecting to do?

and of course the usual.......

 

I will stick with my dirty diesel till the end lol.

 

Hello and welcome.

My sister has just had a Golf GTE delivered, she is currently disappointed as to the electric range. She is impressed with the overall economy though, the electric motor taking some of the strain in/around town. However, these cars are “hybrids” and as such only have a very limited electric range. Only true EVs are designed to have a longer range I believe.

Hopefully some more details around your driving style/routes might help to unpick the expected economy.

 

I've been considering the 530e as I think it would be a good match for my daily commute 8 miles each way on country roads, I could complete that on electric alone and plug in each night, would be better than a diesel for this type of work and more refined.

I guess i would lose out on longer journeys though as after about 20-25 miles real world the charge will be gone leaving me effectively with a 520i (albeit heavier) which might feel a little short on torque when fully loaded for trips away and I'll lose some boot space..

 

Wouldn't you drive it in a hybrid mode, when on longer trips, keeping a percentage of the battery available for the acceleration boosts. The other factor, you will also be adding EV miles on a long trip from regenerations, so not completely depleted.

From what I read of user experiences, it is surprising how many EV miles you can gain on long trips, if you drive to get the best out of a plug-in hybrid. With EV power available for all the times you want, or need, a bit of extra torque.

Peter

 

Yes Hybrid mode is an option however from my research I understand that regen from braking etc. doesn't add that much to the battery and that setting the battery reserve to higher values can kill the fuel consumption from the petrol engine.

I guess that all that's important is that there is extra power available when needed overtakes etc. when cruising on a Motorway, I try to think ahead and keep a constant decent pace rather than being erratic with speed which means huge power isn't required,

Is certainly an interesting concept and I'll only know the compromises by owning one, a test drive would not be long enough to fully assess, the extra refinement would be welcome and a hybrid fits my commute profile much better than diesel. I can easily accommodate a proper home charger or two so could be viable in the future.

Unfortunately most people I know who have a Phev only purchased it for company car tax reasons and never actually charge it which seems a bit pointless to me.

 

When buying our used 218d, we seriously looked at the 225xe before realising it didn't stack up for us personally at this current time.

Pros-
1) Environmentally the right thing to do.
2) Can charge for free at work.
3) Would be quiet & smoother to drive.

Cons -
1) Insurance group 23 instead of 16 for the diesel meant actual quotes were £100 more pa.
2) Equivalent age/mileage were all £2-3k more to buy.
3) Mpg in real terms would be 1/3 less than the diesel.
4) Small fuel tank would be annoying.

In five years time, things will be totally different, so will look again carefully at what is around.

 

From my reading, it is all about how you drive and being willing to adapt to a new/appropriate style.

One example is a G20 330e driver who is reporting his use on another forum, is finding on longer runs he adds a decent amount of EV miles. Over a 1,165 miles trip with one charge at the start, drove 242 miles on EV, averaged 47mpg. ~20% on EV, is indicating some decent energy recovery. To me that is impressive, particularly as it included a lot of motorway driving, where recovery will be minimal.

Peter

 

That is impressive and to be honest if the average is mid-40's+ then there seems little point to a diesel unless doing mega miles..

From the research I have done users are reporting that setting the battery reserve at anything over 20% starts to impact fuel consumption markedly, as ever driving style makes a big difference some people are very 'heavy footed' and seem to get terrible fuel consumption so accurate comparisons are hard to assess.

There will be a shift in driving style needed undoubtedly as there was when diesels became mainstream, I remember colleagues driving their first turbo-diesel and revving them right round to the red line and complaining that the fuel consumption wasn't so great...took them a while to realise that you didn't need to do that and could work with torque and shift earlier.

A hybrid remains firmly on my maybe list, think it could work really well in my circumstance.