G20/21 Sport Seats; Too Firm?

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    Had a chance to get into a couple of new 3-series and the F40 M135i up in Inverness, on Saturday.

    Both the M340i saloon and G21 M-sport touring seats seemed to be very firm, compared to any 3-series sport seats I've used before. As many of you know, I ran an E91 with sport seats for over six years, never had the feeling the seats were hard. Certainly not uncomfortable.

    I'm thinking of an M340i touring as my next car, (yes and no :sneaky:), but I didn't find the seats at all comfortable. I spent a few minutes trying different seating positions, but the base just seemed too hard. Even the M135i seat was more comfortable.

    Got back into my Five and thought, what a good sport seat, by comparison. To be honest was disappointed, as I've never found BMW sport seats uncomfortable before. I sat in the rear of the G21 to see what the leg room was like, for passengers sat behind me, the seat felt too firm and all wrong to me. Has something changed with the latest models?

    Has anyone else tried the latest 3-series sport seats, particularly those who have owned previous generation 3-series?

    BTW, was very impressed with the new F40 M135i, fit and finish. Appears a very solid little car.

    Peter
     
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    Oh, just read the first sentence - that’s how it start Peter
    I looked and was also impressed at the new model, albeit the touring wasn’t initially offered, the car has certainly grown to F10/11 size
     
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    I have found the Sports seats in my F30 to be really comfortable, even on long journeys - even the wife approves. It would be a shame if they have lost that comfort on the new G20. Long distance comfort should be considered an essential on any BMW. Just fortunate that I'm not looking to change at the moment. :)
     
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    Not really going to be very helpful here but ....
    1/ I am extremely disappointed to hear seats are taking a backward step
    2/ Do not contemplate a 1 series Peter. Youngest daughter has one albeit a first generation, and whilst it does have it’s charms (ease of finding parking for it etc) it is most emphatically not a long distance cruiser. It has sports seats on a standard suspension and I was surprised to find the seats acceptable. However compared to the E60 any length of journey is taxing, it cannot offer the same cosseted experience.
     
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    I’ve always found my Comfort Seats in my F11 quite firm, almost hard, too.

    Particularly compared to the front seats in my old Jeep Grand Cherokee, which were much more like comfy armchairs.

    The impression I got from the Sport Seats while driving the new G30 was of a better ‘fit’. Still quite firm, but comfortable.
     
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    From posting with the 'G20 guys', seems I'm not the only one to notice the firm seats. Appears the F30 sport seats are accepted as being more comfortable, which has been my experience. One user has commented that the G20 seats soften after a few miles... if so, still strange they feel so hard initially. I will need more convincing...

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    I can resist. :) Proof... I've has my current car for over 7-years.:D

    Peter
     
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    This is one reason I moved away from BMW, the seats in the new 3 and the X4M that I drove were not good at all. Granted I was coming from a 5 with comfort seats, but to me the new style seats are far too narrow and flat, not at all comfortable.
    In the Porsche, the basic 8 way seats are good, the upgraded 14 way are very good and include lumbar, and the 18 way seats that I now have are just brilliant. They are so comfortable and supportive and the leather is in a different league. Just a shame it’s off the road for a while.
     
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    Is it the leather that is firm and supples up after some usage?

    Std BMW leather does not seem as it once was.

    I am lucky to have the softer Nappa leather rather than Dakota having the Comfort seat option.
     
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    Comfort seats on the later models does not mean nappa leather any more. My 2015 5GT had comfort seats with Dakota leather, which was actually very hard wearing and easy to clean.
     
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    It all depends whether you want luxury or durability.. From other posts, the Dakota leather is harder wearing.
     
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    Forget the seats... off the road???? care to enlighten us as to why...?

    Scrap that - read the thread. Ouch! New gearbox at 13k miles isnt good, and the fact that Zarnd seems to be an expert in the faults suggests that DSG is still not that reliable....

    I'm still enjoying my 5 series with comfort seats and a nice warble from the engine...
     
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    IMO seats have certainly got firmer, from E90-F30-G20 etc. I remember buying the yellow foam padding for older cars and it's far less dense than the more modern ones.

    I wonder if safety/crash testing has anything to do with it
     
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    Sat in some BMW’s today at sytners Sheffield... agree peter... firm seats on some , yes..


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