MOT, brake fluid and end of warranty check

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    My first MOT is due on 28th July, I have a brake fluid change due now and end of warranty check due next month. So my thinking was that I can book it in on the 28th June, get all three done and have 13 months MOT, does it work like that, do I get 13 months MOT?
     
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    Yes!... that's what i did
     
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    That surprises me, 13 months MOT, even when having it done a month early I would have thought they would start counting 12 months from the testing date.

    Reasonable though.

    @kleynie , how time flies...
     
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    Yes, time flies indeed.

    It was always the case that you could get an MOT two weeks early and get 12 and a half months MOT, but in the last few years it’s been changed so that you can get the MOT carried out one full month early. I just didn’t know if that applies to the first MOT. Having an MOT done early always gave you the grace period to get any failures sorted, however, as I understand it, if your car fails under the new rules you cannot drive it away to repair it anyway, it’s effectively condemned and the MOT garage have to fix it. Unless I’ve misunderstood.
     
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    That is how I saw it but how would that work if you took your car to one of the council run MOT testing stations that many people seem to recommend saying they only do testing and they wont fail the car because they are looking for work

    if they fail your car on a serious defect and it has to remain onsite until it is repaired, but they don't carry out repairs so your car is doomed to stay there for ever
     
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    Yeah, it’s not workable.
     
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    Nothing has changed regards taking your failed car away to be repaired elsewhere - either at another repair garage or by your own DIY skills.

    Even if it has failed and is classed as 'dangerous' then the MOT station has no powers to stop you driving it away.

    They will do their utmost to dissuade you and tell you that the car needs immediate repairs - but they cannot stop you taking it away.

    There has been a lot of discussion on the official DVSA sites about this:

    https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/how-the-new-mot-defect-categories-will-work/

    There has also been a lot of unhappy testers asking questions about a whole raft of problems with the new test procedure and rules:

    Scroll down that link and you'll see a comment from a tester just last week about failing a 2005 BMW 525d presented for testing during a DPF re-gen
     
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    @Singvogel

    this is the thing that the garage will use to scare punters into leaving the car with them for repair, if you drive off then then you breaking the law
     
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    Sorry Bob
    Must have got brain freeze or am plain thick tonight.....
    If it fails on dangerous defects, and is illegal to drive away....
    How do you take it away elsewhere / home for repair....?? Trailer tow etc..?
    What am I missing here...
     
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    trailer or tow would be your legal options but many will still try and drive it away, i suppose the answer is to take your car to a garage that you trust and are happy to let them carry out if the car is failed for a dangerous defect
     
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    I think that it's covered by the arrangement whereby you can get a vehicle MOT'd one month before its due date, but the MOT period itself will be 12 months long, from its due date, which is exactly what @Merc? No. BM! said above. (y) :D
     
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    Perhaps I have been misunderstood or more likely I didn't make my point well - sorry guys.

    Nothing has changed regarding taking a failed vehicle away as it has always been the case that to drive an unroadworthy vehicle was illegal - with or without a valid MOT.

    If stopped by police driving it to the MOT station for a booked test, one could claim ignorance of the defect, but driving it home or to another garage after a fail would be harder to defend.

    For example if one were to receive a fail for a tyre being worn to the point of showing cords - not that unusual on the rear of a BMW with extra wide tyres - driving that car away to a tyre-fitters to have a new tyre fitted would leave one open to prosecution.

    Same with any other components, such as brakes or load-bearing important body sections rusted through.

    Driving a failed car away from the MOT station has always left one open to being stopped by police - just as driving an unroadworthy vehicle at anytime.

    Not that any member on here would be doing that - or even letting their car get into such a state of neglect/disrepair.
     
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    It's not so much getting stopped by the police in a vehicle that has failed, but having an accident on the way back from the MOT station, which would almost certainly result in the insurance company not paying out. So that could prove to be a very expensive mistake. :banghead:
     
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    That is a possibility I suppose - on the grounds that you were knowingly driving an unroadworthy vehicle.

    But not having a valid MOT does not give your insurance company grounds to dispute a claim - despite what they may have in their T&Cs.

    The other point is that if you have an MOT early it does not cancel the previous MOT which is still valid until it's expiry.

    Taking a vehicle to / from a booked MOT test is still allowed - unless they have passed some new legislation when my back was turned.

    We are talking here about having a very, very serious fail point - not a missing tail-light or a too worn tyre - which not a problem to drive away really.

    As I said previously I wouldn't imagine any member here would be taking risks with their life - and the lives of others - by driving away from a test station with a truly dangerous car likely to have an imminent catastrophic failure, after the tester had fully explained the consequences.

    The question of what would happen at a Council Testing Depot or at a HGV Testing Centre (people with big campers have to go there) where no repair work is undertaken, is a very interesting one.

    Expect more updates and developments from the DVSA.
     
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    if it was a really dangerous defect they could probably tell you your only option is to trailer or tow the car away

    I agree that nothing has changed from a legal point of view but the way it is now emphasized will be used to scare people into leaving their car where it is and agreeing to the repairs being carried out at any price
     
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    You can do it one month less one day in advance, otherwise it won't post date to your registration date if that makes sense and would just run from the day you took it in.

    The earliest you could take yours in would then be the 29th.

    cheers
     
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    Gotcha, thanks
     

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