Retro fit Head Up display.

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    I understand BMW can supply and fit a head up display to retro fit to my 2018 f48 20i. Has anyone had any experience of these and how does it differ from an original installation.
     
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    Ed@Cotswold BMW would be the man tell you, straight from the horse's mouth as it were ( sorry Ed, no comparison or insult intended.....:p)

    And with the added benefit of Members' discount if you're within reasonable striking distance too (y)
     
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    I was just going to ask the same about the HUD
    I am thinking of getting one (retrofit) for my F30

    What are peoples general thoughts about the HUD
     
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    My 2014 640d had it, so has my present x5 40d, and My 8 series that I pick up in September has it, I think is brilliant and wouldn't now have a car without it, everything you need information wise is projected onto the screen, I say onto the screen but really, it looks like it's hovering in front of your bonnet.. don't know how the retro fitted ones are I'm afraid. .
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    I’m negative sorries
    My believe is HUD does not work with Polaroid glasses,
    I have astigmatism, whilst not by any means blind I do have corrective lenses, most noticeable at nights where I have to at least wear coloured driving glasses (ideally prescription glasses)
    Therefore HUD would offer little benefit

    Otherwise I believe the content on display is very limited on most systems
    For a while I looked at cheap projection screens from auction sites and Amazon, as I frequently use sat have apps whilst cycling, (for speed display) though I quickly learnt, if I can’t be ar5ed moving my eye a further 2degree to see speedo perhaps I shouldn’t be driving
     
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    Yes this is true, whilst driving, whilst sunny once, I put on my sun glasses, couldn't understand why I could hardly see the HUD, took them off and all was fine, it was only then I realised the glasses were indeed Polaroid, I didn't even know they were at the time, but you are correct, very faint with Polaroids..
     
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    I find with my polarised sunglasses that it’s readable but dimmed slightly, seems to be 45 degree tilt left and it’s perfect, I assumed it was because my sunnies were just boots ones and they did the lenses on the wonk, guess not lol. That’s on 2 different manufacturers Factory fit HUD systems.
     
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    I have it on my F34 good for some things like the variable cruise and who's calling on the phone but other wise I could take or leave it really + my Oakley's almost kill it in the sun! Don't think I would spec from new depending on cost, however I have the very rare blind spot detection which is excellent and something I definatley couldn't live without! Amazing that the the fully loaded 740xd I was looking at didn't have !!!! Hence the F34 remains
     
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    I am in the process of purchasing 2020 F48 BMW X1 xDrive 20i MSport B48 LCI and have the following comments. The HUD comes bundled with the BMW Navigation Plus and is called technology Pack II at a cost of £1250.00.
    I would think that purchasing and retrofitting a HUD for this car would be expensive because:
    I read somewhere you would need a new windscreen (special glass for HUD area)
    New cutaway projector slot top scuttle/binnacle where the HUD displays from above the speedo display

    With regards to prescription sunglasses, I spoke to Specsavers and they advise that prescription glasses of the type called Photochromic, or Transition Lenses are fine and do not impact the reading of the HUD.
     
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    It's not a real retrofit sorry as it uses an additional screen stuck to the dash rather than displaying on the windscreen. You can't do a factory retrofit without replacing the windscreen :(

    I've got factory Heads Up in my new X3 and really like it
     
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    Hi Ed. Unfortunately when i got our 20i i bought it used with 2100 miles on the clock. Amongst the reasons was that BMW did not have a 20i listed due to mpg figures??? (June 2018). Can the fitting of the retro fit only done by dealer or can it be done outside the dealership
     
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    I've just had a quick scan through the fitting instructions and I wouldn't attempt it myself :ROFLMAO:
    I can email them over to you?
     
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    I too have to be negative regards HUD.

    I wear glasses all the time - normally with progressive lenses.

    Almost all of my spectacles are polarised to some degree - even my Hoya lens night-driving ones.

    I reckon there is a very restricted choice if one was looking for sun-glasses that were non-polarised.

    Any time I've driven a car with HUD I've found it a distraction rather than of benefit as I've had to give it more than just a passing glance to get the info - especially the sat-nav details - much easier and quicker to glance across at the main screen or down to the extra sat-nav display beside the rev-counter.

    It certainly isn't worth the extra money (£1900 for the technology pack on a 3 series) if the HUD was the main reason for ordering the package.

    As far as I can see HUD is only available as part of a package - i.e. it can't be ordered as a stand alone option.

    Perhaps the after-market version with an additional screen above the instrument binnacle gives different results.

    Here is what BMW say about HUD - I've highlighted the bit about polarised glasses :

    The Head-up Display projects information relevant to the journey directly into your field of vision on the windscreen thereby allowing you to fully concentrate on driving. It has an automatic brightness control, 3D graphics for junction view (realistic display of turns and intersections) and a user-friendly adjustment by means of the iDrive Controller. The large-scale 11.5" display with 7° x 3.5° opening angle and a throw of approx. 2.5 m displays navigation information in different display modes, speed, country-specific display of traffic signs in the relevant colours, warning information from driver assistance systems, situational display of entertainment and communication lists (two-line list display), Drive Performance Control contents, modes (via coloured highlighting, BMW EfficientDynamics functional contents and check control messages with 3D graphics. On SE and Sport models, the instrument cluster changes from analogue to a semi-digital variation. In addition, the Head-up Display is 2D rather than 3D. The display of full content is dependent on optional equipment ordered. Only available as part of the Technology package. The information in the BMW Head-up Display is not fully visible when viewed through polarised sunglasses. Further optional equipment is required for the display.
     
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    Bob
    I completely understand your negatives about glasses, but in my case and after speaking to Specsavers some years ago (I have had prescription glasses 45 years) I went to photochromic/transitional (non-polarised) lenses. I used varifocal lenses for a while, but now use bifocals. Specsavers have always advised me to go this route (and I always have) even when combining my prescription (long sited with astigmatism) with sunglasses prescription.

    For me, and I suspect for quite a few others, this is the best option of combining sunglasses with a prescription. This lens combination is completely clear at night and when in the shade (and inside the car the majority of the time) and darken to brown for sunlight. There is an option to use grey and not brown when in the sunlight. The only downside to all this is if you take a selfie or someone takes a photo of you with the glasses on you have Panda eyes.:LOL: .

    The upside for me is that I only have one set of glasses all the time.

    With regard to the cost option, as you know not all BMW vehicles have the same pricing/package. The new facelift 2020 X1 costs £1250.00 (April 2020 pricing) and that is for the Navigation Plus package + HUD. That gives the wider 10.25" screen with Navigation plus package instead of the 8.8" screen with normal navigation. To me, that is a bargain for a new build car even without HUD. For me the HUD is free. I will not be using it for everything. It will be used primarily for speed limits and nav routing and a few other small items. I can see it being a distraction having everything on the screen at once. Having said that, after trawling other BMW Forums people go out of the way to ensure it is ordered for a new car and would not order a new car without it. Horses for courses.

    Anyway, we have to remember this thread is all about retrofitting to the OPs 2018 F48 20i as he says below,
    but as already stated in previous posts the costs would be high.
     
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    Ed,
    could you advise what is the cost of supply (the after market version obviously as a full retrofit would be exorbitant ) and if you could a cost for fitting so as to help in my decision making
    F30, K821332

    thanks
     
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    It looks a pretty simple and straight forward retrofit From the instructions, run the wires then stick the unit on with sticky pads.
     

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