SUVs et al. Why?

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    Probably the wrong forum to ask this question, but I need to ask...
    I’ve simply not understood the constant growth in SUVs and 4x4 type cars over recent years. There seems to be an ongoing explosion in the number of possible models and sub models of these types by nearly all manufacturers.
    I live in a reasonably well to do suburb of the midlands and am surrounded by them, the local primary school is at the end of my road, and morning/afternoons sees a constant sea of X3/X5/Q5/Q7 etc roll by and park (badly!) on our road. There is even a Bentley Bentawhataaname as well. Not one of them leaves the road, apart from mounting the kerb and ruining the grass verges down the road. Not one of them houses more than two of the families off spring.

    A good family friend has a X6M and loves it, he’s had three X5s before and swear by them, but still prefers his 645i convo he drives a few times each year...
    When I had young boys I had an estate car, perfect in every possible way, quick, roomy, economic (for a 250bhp petrol car) and safe (it was Swedish..). Never did I think of needing a pretend off roader for the purpose, nor a van with windows (don’t even start me on people carriers!).
    Maybe I am stuck in an old fashioned motoring rut, or maybe I can see the ever decreasing space on our roads and the ever decreasing resources we hold, hence the lack of understanding as to the growing durge of such massive (and increasing in size) “cars”.
    Do they give a superior forcing position? Do they induce as sense of driving superiority? Do they make the drivers feel safer?
    I just don’t get it. At all.

    Sure I will be shot down in flames, but I am genuinely curious as to why. Answers on a post card to....
     
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    Have never understood the appeal of SUV's on our crowded roads / confined parking spaces. Useful if you're towing though
     
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    My own thoughts entirely. There are some fairly narrow country lanes around Cheshire, but there is always the chance of an overblown SUV coming around a blind bend in the middle of the road. For some reason, whatever happens in the States, crops up here 10 years later. But each to there own. I grew up driving various sports cars over the years, so a 5 series seems huge to me. Just parking an SUV in todays car park spaces must be a constant PITA. :rolleyes:

    The only one that I would consider to be a true SUV would be the Range Rover, but I hear that there are reliability issues . . . . :whistling:
     
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    When you get down to it..., there’s normally the same room inside as a conventional hatchback / estate but you just stand 6” taller off the road...,don’t forget the kerbs by Cheshire schools are massive, so all the mums need one....and of course the bigger the car the safer the little darlings are...! Then it’s just an arse kicking contest if size and cost versus your neighbours...
    Too right it’s a status symbol... you’ve only got to look and read on here for that... are they any better... no... not unless your towing a large boat / caravan / horse box across dome shirt field... etc... and for those people I definitely would have one....


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    Evolution
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    Similar to the traits & growth of the 3 series
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    Every carnation brings more size aka battered hatchback, Mpv to SUV, Soon we’ll all be driving pick ups (already several offerings) with 5th wheels, twin axles Can’t wait!
     
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    Coming to a school drop off point near you soon:

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    Maybe I’m being a stuck in the past traditionalist, maybe these “cars” are the future, but I just don’t get it.
     
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    That's just feckin atrocious
     
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    I share the general views here too. Mrs G however, owns a Kuga. She likes it because she is undertall and it gives her a better view of the road. As for taller folks, I speculate that it's therapy. Either helping them manage their low self-esteem and/or being assertive, things of which they are incapable when not at the wheel. Certainly if you're in a Q7...
     
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    There are a lot on the farms around Chelsea, I believe. :)
     
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    One reason is an ageing population of people who are overweight and find getting in and out of an SUV type vehicle much easier. My wife (not yet 50) has suffered from a bad back for years so a small SUV auto, such as a Skoda Yeti, will be one of our next cars.
     
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    Some of us just like them:)
     
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    I'd have a Porsche Macan in a heart beat. Been driving the halfway house 5GT for too long now.
     
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    Some people just like them me included, not all of them are the same , some spend lots of their time in a second home ( dealership getting fixed) .
    I also own a Porsche but trying to get in and out of the thing makes you wish you had studied yoga at school, we have a Gran tourer xdrive which is a great car but again low and fairly light compared with the X5.
    Next car on my list is another X5 as the good lady wants another twin axle home from home and these are the only thing that will pull them at an 85% ratio.
    I would love an M5 touring but think they will never make one unfortunately.
    Most of the Chelsea tractors are just a fad \ showing off although not many owners will be as described by one comment on here! They will be preened and manicured like their cars at least they pay more in fuel, tax and tyres.
    Hands up the last time you drove a 40d or 50d X5? You maybe suprised how quick , comfortable and economical they are
     
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    I had one for a week last August and loved it.
     
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    I've got to agree and the cabin is a hell of a place to sit. I like a touring, and was going to swap out to a newer touring, but I've actually gone down the X3 route :whistle:
     
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    Small penuckle and Goulliez - Suv

    Mahousive wanger and Ba’s - Coupe

    Simple choice

    Note- I started off writing my escapades from hothatch, through coupes to saloon then SUV’s though it wasn’t a credible read!
     
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    Any car is a compromise of sorts and a succession of swift estates for me just threw up increasing space issues and I didn't want to go any bigger than a 3er. I was always loathe to get an SUV but now that I have I'll find it difficult to go back to an estate. It's smart, practical, epically comfortable and surprisingly swift. I realised how little I used the welly in my 335d and really don't miss it, the RRS has plenty of power if I want to throw it around but it's no sports car so may well get a weekend toy at some point. Just don't ask me about its reliability...
     
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    I like mine, its a nice place to sit, it doesn't need the suspension fixing when I drive the roads round here, we have potholes you could park a 140i in and never see it again, my ageing dad can get in and out of it without me having to get out and help him.... and it tows better than the 320d (even though the 320d was a very good tow motor )

    My cars have to work hard first, be reasonably economical second and any pose factor is a long way down the line.

    If I lived in a city I wouldn't have an electric car. When I did live in a city I didn't have a car at all.
     
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    Some excellent points well made. Obviously I respect these options, clearly a lot of thought has gone into the choice of car.
    Where you live and your lifestyle clearly impacts on the choice of vehicle you need. I’ve driven my friends X6M and yes, it was rapid, comfortable and a great place to sit, but I caught sight of it in a shop windows reflection....oh dear.

    Been to St Ives today, parked up on the top car park by the leisure centre. Struggled to find a spot to park as the spaces were seemingly filled with SUVs of all makes and sizes. Our car parking isn’t really built for these leviathans really.

    And the spirited drive back in my lowly 320d coupe was fantastic!
     
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    it is different strokes for different folks, it would be a very boring world if we were all the same

    I never really got the suv thing and never understood why people were so keen on them but a few years back on a three week visit to Florida i was give this as a rental car

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    it was the first time i had ever driven an SUV and i absoulutly loved every minute of driving it and at the end of the holiday i would have happily brought it home with me, in the Florida it seemed like the perfect car to waft around in and as massive as that car was it was often dwarfed by the other cars being driven around Florida, did it make me rush out and buy an suv the minute i got home, no it didnt and i dont think i have driven an SUV since but i would never discount buying one, I live in a very rural area where a 4X4 SUV would perfectly at home and there are loads of places around here that i would never take my car but in an SUV it would be fine, I can see why people drive them around this part of the world

    as for vehicle size i drive a car that is 2 mm shorter than a standard wheel base range rover it is a supremely comfortable four seater with sufficient room in the back for two adults to sit in comfort over long distances and that is what i want from a car, I recently did 750 miles over about 14 hours and my luxo barge was a pleasure to drive on such a journey
     

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