wheels stuck to the hubs

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    well l am late changing to my winter wheels this year and as we are now getting some frosty mornings l thought it was time to switch

    so as l was day off today l started this morning to wash the car got all that done and packed away stopped for lunch and then went to swap wheels whilst the car was still on the ground l went around and cracked all the nuts off on the near side this was a lot harder than normal and felt like the nuts were over tightened but as they came out t loos le the wheel bolts were rusted to the hubs

    l then jacked the car front and back and and took all the nuts off and both wheels were stuck to the hubs and no amount of pulling and shoving they were not moving l managed to get the front off but the rear was solid and would not shift at this point it pissed down with rain so l put all the nuts back on torqued them up and headed for the dry

    l now we are not meant to use copper grease on mating surfaces and wheel bolts so what can l use to stop the wheels rusting on to the hubs and the bolts rusting into the hubs ?
     
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    I still copper slip mine.
    If you can't get them off try undoing the bolts just a quarter of a turn loose and drive the car up and down the road a short distance.
     
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    +1 for copper grease.
     
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    Use on the hub spigots, just ensure any anti-seize product is not used on the flat mating (clamping) faces.

    Peter
     
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    And use sparingly so as to avoid splatter !
     
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    I too use copper grease.....clean up the hubs and inside of the wheels - also clean up the mating surfaces with wire brush.....wheels come off easy.
    If they are stuck I have used a rubber mallet or if all else fails a size 12 - just be careful not kick the car off the jacks...
     
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    I use a very small smear of copper grease across all the areas of the wheel that clamp to the hub and that has worked well for many years on many cars.

    When I get a car where the wheel is stuck on first you need the car jacked up solidly then I find the best way to get the wheel off is:
    1) Loosen the bolts a bit but do not remove
    2) Sit on the ground facing the wheel
    3) Kick with the bottom of your right foot the 3 o'clock part of the tyre
    4) Kick with the bottom of your left foot the 9 o'clock part of the tyre
    5) Repeat (3) and (4) until it loosens off

    Hitting with a hammer or mallet never really worked for me and it's too easy to hit something you don't want to.

    Driving with the wheel nuts loosened apparently works but I don't fancy it.
     
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    Only had this happen once, many years ago on an E30. To release the fronts i just loosened the bolts and put on full lock both ways
     
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    Has this a few times. Usually the two footed suggestion at 9 and 3 has done the job.
     
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    l guess this is a problem that is made worse by washing the wheels a lot
    Normally during the the summer l take the wheels off and clean inside and out but l did not do that this year so they have been on the car for seven months or so without being touched
    Rain stopped play today so l hope the weather is fine for our early start on Sunday morning as l wont get time to fit the winters before then due to work commitments
     
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    Am another who uses Copper Grease . Have had to kick mine off a few times myself , along with a few choice words .:whistling:
     
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    I use grease on the spigot on mine (usually a marine grease, it's a bit more water resistant than normal bearing grease). Have had to resort to the two-footed approach occasionally in the past, but once I've had them off and greased them I've never had a problem on that car again.
     
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    I don't grease the joint between wheel and hub - just spray with duck oil or similar. To release wheel I just use the flat end of a crow bar carefully. Does not damage or scratch anything. It takes very little pressure to break the joint.
     
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    Swapped the winter wheels onto the wife's X3 today, used copper grease on the hub spigots when the summers went on - all came of easily......
     
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    I helped my brother swap to some winter wheels that he'd just purchased. The summers were a nightmare to take off and obviously hadn't been taken off in a while! Had to use a rubber mallet to bash the wheel back and forth before they'd give.

    I think the fact of swapping every 4-6 months or so will mean the wheels don't have time to glue themselves to the hubs. Got a mate to help with my winter wheels (hand out of action) and the summers came off straight away and I hadn't used any copper grease.
     
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    Well the rear near side will be coming of tomorrow because the tyre is flat as a pancake, we set off at 7.00 am for a trip to the NEC for the BBc good food show and sixty miles from home I had tyre pressure low warning nearside rear was down to one bar and dropping fast a quick visit to an air line was pointless as the air was coming out as fast as it was going in so the next 40 miles were do e with zero pressure so got to find a new tyre tomorrow score I can go home
     
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    dahm! That’s an expensive journey, huge benefits in Rfts allow completion of journey, however the replacement is eye watering - brace the wallet for impact!
     
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    I was worried that I wouldn't get a tyre to match most of the places around Birmingham that show stock online were saying they could get a tyre for Thursday so bit of a panic about what I was going to do but found a Dunlop sport maxx in 275/40/19 runflat at a place in Coventry and they will fit it tomorrow so happy days car is abandoned at the NEC and we went to Birmingham on the train so only about 12 miles to the tyre place tomorrow
     
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    I use copper grease on the spigot and mating surfaces, never had a problem.
     
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    A tyre place once put the wheel bolts back in but slightly loose, lowered the car and rolled it back and fourth to release the wheel from the hub.
     
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